The Saturn Return of the Internet with Emmalea Russo
Episode Description
Think that your Saturn Return is supposed to be the worst? It might be, but it can also be très juicy and transformative. Our fav resident Astrologer Emmalea Russo is on the podcast today chatting with Michelle about the power plays that Saturn gets up to in our lives on and off the internet. That's right! That internet is having its Saturn Return. What does that mean for the future of how we interact online? What was the initial promise of the internet? How has it benefited us? What are its limitations and what are we disillusioned by? Michelle and Emmalea muse on these Qs and dive deeper into what Saturn has to teach us.
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When Saturn comes around and it's at the same place that it was when you were born, it can be a reckoning with one's limitations. It's a time when you're figuring out what it means to be an adult, or what it means to age or enter the next phase in your life. It's a threshold moment, so you're probably looking to your past and figuring out, what the hell, just happened? And also, well, what do I want the next 29 years to look like or feel like, and what is my relationship to time? - Emmalea Russo
The internet was formed out of an inferiority complex and that's in the pattern of the DNA of how we use the internet today. - Michelle Pellizzon
I think question we can think of in terms of the internet Saturn return are, how did this start? What were its initial promises? How has it benefited us? What are his limitations, and what are we disillusioned by? - Emmalea Russo
How am I spending my time? What structures am I using to uphold my daily rhythms? What's got to go? Saturn's interested in architecture, building things, and demolishing things. - Emmalea Russo
In order to look forward, we have to look back, and any kind of A-historical approach to figuring out a future or a present is pretty much doomed, which I think we're kind of living in a weird era of right now. – Emmalea Russo
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If you enjoyed diving into astrology with Emmalea Russo, check out "Why Predicting The Astrology of 2021 Ain't It with Emmalea Russo" where Michelle and Emmalea discuss their unpopular opinions about The Age of Aquarius, various ways of interpreting modern vs. ancient astrology, the reductive nature of social media, and what you can expect energetically from the cosmos in 2021.
SHOW NOTES
[00:00:00] Michelle introduced The Cusp
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[00:04:32] Michelle introduced Emmalea Russo, an Astrologer
[00:04:57] Today’s topic: The Saturn Return of the Internet
[00:05:44] Quick refresher on what Saturn return is. It's when Saturn makes its full rotation all the way around the sun.
[00:07:30] Our 1990s babies were taking the cake. Now you're in your Saturn return. It's usually a time of review, and where you learn some lessons.
[00:08:12] It's a time when you sort of solidify who you are, and your Saturn return happens every 30-ish years. It's like a life review that we get
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[00:11:53] Saturn returns got a really bad rap, but they're not. They don't have to be bad.
[00:13:07] Michelle asked, “What is a Saturn Return from an ancient astrology perspective?”
[00:13:56] For centuries, we thought Saturn was the final planet. Then Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto were discovered.
[00:16:44] All the planets have certain energies, and vibes, and agendas. But as soon as they get dropped into a birth chart, a time, and a place, they get altered.
[00:18:12] I have a Saturn Capricorn. I love to work. - Michelle
[00:19:09] It's not about what age. It's about what sign.
[00:19:18] So your Saturn return begins when Saturn enters the sign that it was in when you were born.
[00:23:57] We don’t treat our elderly very nice, and we all become them eventually.
[00:29:20] It is a time when you're figuring out what it means to be an adult, or what it means to age or enter a next phase in your life.
[00:31:58] My training was more difficult than my actual Saturn return, so when I had it, it wasn't the easiest thing in the world, but it didn't destroy me. - Michelle
[00:37:00] Saturn return gets to be dramatized a bit as if your entire world will come crashing down. Everything you think you understand about structures and why you're here comes into question.
[00:37:49] You can change the trajectory whenever you want. You can decide to be more introspective.
[00:38:00] It's not that Saturn is bad, and Jupiter is good, but Saturn is contractive and Jupiter is expansive.
[00:40:11] If you're operating from fear, nothing's going to be good.
[00:40:26] Contraction and expansion are just two sides of the same coin.
[00:40:31] There's some amount of destruction that happens when you're trying to grow.
[00:41:53] Like a teacher, lean into the fear instead of freaking out and start sprinting away from it.
[00:43:02] Start of the discussion about the Saturn return of the internet.
[00:44:24] No one had even been able to conceptualize how far they could possibly reach, and how much they could possibly change.
[00:53:00] We have to create a set of ethics around it, and who is responsible for creating those ethics?
[01:10:54] Look to the past. Do some real research - what happened in history? Really take a look at that before jumping on a bandwagon, or saying or liking something, or disliking something.
[01:13:30] We deserve spaciousness and rest and privacy to make up our minds, and to change our minds if we want to 100%
[01:17:26] We don't live in ‘either-or’. We live in the ‘and’.
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