Trusting Your Path: Art and Wellness with Pamela Pietro
Episode Description
What teacher fundamentally changed the way that you live your life? Maybe it was a math tutor that really just taught you to read tarot or an English teacher that showed you the importance of not taking yourself so seriously. Today's special guest is Pamela Pietro, a teacher that changed Michelle's life. Michelle and Pamela reflect on what it means to channel your adversity into your art, the practices that still ground them in uncertainty today, and what it looks like to stay on your path even when you're ready to quit.
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Parameters are what you need in art to make beautiful work, and to make important work.— Michelle Pellizzon
It's a way for students to go, wait a second. There are all these wonderful things that are going on in my life. I just need a moment to think about them and then to speak about it. Once you do that, you've already conversed with the universe. Then it kind of sets you into a pattern. - Pamela Pietro
I'm thinking a lot about my voice and how I want to be impeccable with my word and to be my most authentic self. - Pamela Pietro
There are going to be days you're just not into it. I actually ask them to embrace those days. That's fine. Don't be into it. Let's see where we go from there because you just don't feel like it and that is real and that's okay. What then are we going to do with that? - Pamela Pietro
You can see it in people's daily activities and in their lives, in the way that they walk through the world. When are you finding the time? When is your X moment? When can you just lie in your X? It's the most gratifying experience. - Pamela Pietro
I always say stay on your path, and when you need to veer off that path, you'll know. You'll know when to veer. You'll know when you have all the courage to do that. - Pamela Pietro
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If you enjoyed hearing Michelle and Pamela jam on the intersection of Art and Wellness, check out "Being Psychic and Running An Intuitive Business With AJA Daashuur Of Spirithouse Collective" where Michelle and guest AJA Daashuur riff on how they came to know their intuitive powers, creating and running intuitive businesses, and some unpopular opinions about how to do spirituality the "right" way.
SHOW NOTES
[00:00:05] Podcast begins.
[00:00:21] Today we have Pamela Pietro. Pam is the Associate Arts Director and the Academic Director at NYU Tisch.
[00:00:52] She is one of those teachers who shows up for their students in a way that is above and beyond.
[00:07:33] Pam would always start her class by having everyone share their positive thought of the day.
[00:09:30] We can't control all of the outcomes and we also have no idea where we're going to end up.
[00:15:20] Pam revealed her motivation for doing the positive thought of the day routine.
[00:17:01] That's the point of art --- to expand our humanity and understand the human experience and show empathy for one another.
[00:18:53] When you're transitioning from childhood into adulthood, you sometimes have a lot to say but don't exactly know how.
[00:21:06] Just listen. Try to hear what they're saying in a really deep way. It's another way of teaching.
[00:25:00] In times of struggle, this is when the best art gets made.
[00:27:00] The universe knows what it's doing.
[00:27:25] Pam shared her unpopular opinion about the things that have happened because of COVID.
[00:29:36] “It's given me a newfound sense of confidence. It also demonstrated things that I never thought that I'd be good at.” - Pamela
[00:34:26] Pam has been reading a lot of books such as My Grandmother's Hands and Caste. Pam also does other activities such as yoga and meditations, took various courses such as the DreamBuilder Course by Christal Brown.
[00:36:32] There's artists in all of us.
[00:40:08] Art is the experience of processing something and working through it and metabolizing it and spitting something out that maybe is half-baked.
[00:41:12] Our feet --- the things that we use the most and the things we take care of the least.
[00:43:53] “What comes out of me and goes to them is the most important part.” - Pamela
[00:47:51] Stay on your path. The future is so uncertain.
[00:49:47] Take the time to do one extra thing for yourself or for a friend or for somebody else.
[00:50:12] Pam’s father passed away in January. Pam honored her father who gave her, along with her nine siblings, everything.
[00:53:40] Michelle shared how she and her partner, who was diagnosed of brain cancer, live in uncertainty.
[00:54:07] We all are living in uncertainty. Nothing is promised to us other than, this road will come to an end at some point.
[00:54:25] There are many things that we don't have control over, but we do get to choose how we want to remember our story. Every movement is a choice.
[00:55:44] There are going to be days you're just not into it. Embrace those days. That's fine.
[01:00:24] Visit Pam’s website https://pamelapietro.com
[01:00:24] Follow Pam on Instagram @pietro
[01:02:22] Podcast ends.