On Building Friendships in Community and in Business with Katie Dalebout
Photo by Christine Mai Nguyen
Welcome to the second episode in our series on creator communities and the people who build, nurture, and grow alongside their communities of all shapes and sizes.
Today we’re talking to the prolific creator and podcast icon, Katie Dalebout!
Katie Dalebout is a writer, podcast producer, and host. Her weekly interview show began in 2013 and now has over 400 episodes with nearly 5 million downloads. In 2019 she started Spiraling, a co-hosted podcast with Serena Wolf. Her book Let It Out published in 2016, is interactive and full of journaling prompts and writing exercises. She teaches workshops, and an online class for independent podcasters runs a digital supportive group called: In Process, consults, and writes a weekly newsletter. She lives in Los Angeles.
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“I think to judge anybody’s timeline, it’s hard because I think we have these societal markers of success that by 30 you’ll have these things and by 40 you’ll have these things, but our generation has had some challenges, and so much of it is out of our control. I didn’t think this would be my life when I was 25.”
“My dad said something similar to me. When I went to school for dance, he was like, you can always make more money, but you can’t make time. You can’t get time back. So go do what you wanna do, and don’t worry, you’ll figure it out. You’ll figure out how to make money. If that’s what you wanna do in the future. Go, be a poor artist. It’s all good.”
“The work will always be there. The people might not. And I learned that the hard way. And I showed you that the hard way. I hope that you do what I couldn’t and what I didn’t.”
“People are on different timelines. You know where I am right now in my early 30s is like, I kind of had more success financially when I was younger. And that’s okay...”
“My grandmother said, ‘You can count your true friends on one hand.’ And I think there’s some truth to that. I think you can only really be close with about five people at the same time. And you can only really be a good friend and show up to about five people at the same time... If you think about it when you’re going through something, really share the beats with somebody. I don’t want to do that with more than like five people.”
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Show Notes
How to keep your friendships alive and well
A look at attachment styles, and how that shows up in friendships
Why friendship seems so important to Katie?
The story of how Katie and Michelle met
Do we really have to choose just one between our jobs/business and friendship?
When a 5-year plan is helpful, and when it’s not
What is sacred work and how does it change over time?
The many seasons of life
How hard is it to get a visa from Canada to work in the US?
The biggest things you need to know about yourself right now
Having a sense of equanimity and understanding how the world works and makes sense
Katie’s personal philosophy and what can we learn from her
How to be happier by focusing on what you have instead of what you don't
Living by the mindset of non-attachment and trying to not hold too tightly to anything
Michelle shared a bit of wisdom from her dad, Greg Pellizzon
Anxiously attached person and avoidant-attached person — how they differ in terms of how to feel good and dynamic
Discover Katie’s way of podcast editing
Different sources of information, different ways of learning, and different phases and pacing
Katie’s advice to “Katie 5 years ago”
Resources and People Mentioned
Descript — all-in-one video+audio editor, the easiest way to edit a podcast!
Speechify — a text-to-speech app that turns anything you need to read into something you can listen to… great for multitaskers and auditory processors
Logitech POP Keys Keyboard — hot people are minding their ergonomic business this September
This podcast is edited by Softer Sounds Studio! Check ‘em out.